This time, Paul chats to TV presenter, podcaster, technology enthusiast and man of at least two names, GARETH JONES!

You may have known him as ‘Gaz Top’ on Saturday morning children’s TV show Get Fresh, or you may have seen his 16-year stint fronting How 2 for CITV.  He’s presented Tomorrow’s World, he’s hosted the Gareth Jones on Speed podcast for 15 years ( – and we get into all of these things and more.

If you’ve listened to my other podcast, The British Broadcasting Century, you may have heard bits of this chat. But he was such a great guest, I wanted to put the entire brilliantly gobby, hugely insightful, occupationally illuminating interview up here. 

So have at it! The complete works of the Gareth Jones chat.

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This podcast is more a channel than a series – so right now it’s occupied by CATCHING UP – longform chats with interesting folks. But go back and you can find Comedians With Books or The Heptagon Club – more interviews with interesting folks, just in different marvellous formats. Listen to that lot, complete the set.

Stay subscribed for more! Next time: Rev Jon March on how church can return post-pandemic. But with more fun in our chat than that sounds.

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